If it was not such a high profile case, Diane Downs would have been paroled a long time ago, considering her good behavior and lack of priors. She said a bunch of really stupid things in the media (my kids were lucky, not me gets the palm) and basically bury herself. Hugi didnt rush in and take the kids, he had time to consider. She has been denied parole 2x and is up again in 2020. She did diagnose her as suffering from cyclothymic disorder and treated her accordingly. A sick kid who had a stroke and traumatized being pressured for weeks to remember her mother killing her? It is because she is a high profile person. Her release was recommended by a warden and a psychiatrist. The answers to those questions do not matter anymore. I dont know how familiar she was with the area, but I do not think that it matters anyway. It became judicial kidnapping to obtain a coerced confession: inflammatory I think that she has done enough time and should be released. It sounds pretty fair to me. Yes, I had filed for divorce and then I canceled it. She was in solitary confinement for years and even escaped from prison once but was recaptured. They would have welcomed them with open arms. Diane had moved to Oregon only 6 weeks before the tragedy to work in the area and have her parents spend time with the kids. A group of ladies formed a group called HELDD which stands for Help Exonerate & Liberate Diane Downs. Not that Dianes mental health was not a factor in her letter, but it was definitely taken out of context in some instances. The Diane Downs' Case Was no Small Sacrifice On May 19, 1983, Elizabeth Diane Downs and her three small children were shot on a country road near Springfield, Oregon. Great question. Great blog post, thank you. What about the judge stopping a defendant from getting a new attorney? rudy francisco rifle analysis / ford employee profit sharing 2022 / why didn't steve downs get custody. In the spring of 1986, Christie confided to school mates that shed been coerced to lie in court, to implicate her mother (Appendix 1-2). If you think you would have more influence arguing for better relationships with Mexico at a Donald Trump rally in Mexico, why bother? She followed all the correct Parole Boardprocedures for two years with no hearing. You indicated you were not going to get a divorce? Christie NEVER said she didnt know who did it she was just unwilling or afraid to tell on her mother. What would have been the conclusion to have drawn without this hate campaign? Any thoughts on that? This case flew under my radar so to speak because it happened before my time. When a white attractive woman like Diane Downs appears on the scene while displaying seemingly unpleasant characteristics as a mother and a personality disorder, there is no telling what the media will do with the story. Judges are subject to certain ethical standards and have a duty to be impartial. I agree on many points with your comment. And Steven was free to follow her lead or not. Did u learn nothing?? I am a firm believer of where there is smoke there is fire. They were not truth seekers and enjoyed a nice burning at the stake instead. If the adult can show capacity and willingness to provide care, love and nurturing to the children, then there is no legal reason to prevent them from becoming Foster Carers. Thank you Lise. When your goal is to call me dude, insult my name and trash my blog, you can go on other sites who will love to spar with you while swallowing the old narrative of high profile cases. Thanks Kit, It is a bit of a mystery to me that not more people see that if we removed the high profile name and the accompanying media storm, the case was no slam dunk. Mainly because the courts have to give every chance possible and all the services necessary to the bio family to try to preserve the relationship. Halo 4. She was fighting back and they did not like it. That single fact collaborated by a witness, convicts her for me. Diane clearly would have had to have had her rights terminated by the court. I have no dog in this race. This is an extremely tragic case and her children at the very least deserve justice. It deserved as much attention as a Unicorn, a song or all the other hearsay floating around because at least, they came from real people signing official documents. Too bad she did not interview Diane or her family. Why is there virtually no info on him? Steve Downes has voiced the Master Chief in the Halo games since his 2001 debut, and his voice has become synonymous with the character.However, despite Jen Taylor being asked to reprise her role as the . He freely admitted HE decided to ask for a divorce on his birthday without consulting Diane, who was out of town The gun problem or the absence of blood and powder residues are not make believe. It was the story of two troubled young souls trying to survive without a safety net. And in fact this would have been about the time that Charlene broke a bottle of liquor that you had. The underlying basis of this article. What about the terror of being interrogated by strangers and separated from her family? Maybe she didnt want to admit she was there for drugs, but you need a really tiny brain to worry about that in such a situation. Strange how Jagger is pretty absent too except for the few photos where he is wrongly identified as Hugi. Diane Downs' ex husband, Steve Downs, lost a lot in May 1983 when his ex wife shot their three children, following their divorce in 1980. But Diane was not the one dragging Knick out of Charlenes bed every morning intent on making or breaking his relationship with another woman. Even if I have no doubt that Hugi loved the kids, we have to wonder why he adopted them two years later just when little Christie started saying she had no clue who shot them. Steve Downs had allegedly stolen this gun from a friend named Billy Proctor, but after it was found and the ballistics did not match, Bill suddenly remembered keeping it only for a day before exchanging it for another Ruger automatic at a gun show in Mesa; which now meant that the gun that Diane allegedly used to shoot herself and the children, was still apparently nowhere to be found. She is still in prison. I tried to contact you by email but my email wouldnt acknowledge you email address. Years later, seven witnesses signed affidavits telling of a man named Jim Haynes continuing confessionthat he wasthe shooter, and his appearance boresimilarities to the sketch. In my blog, I was referring to the case of Liysa Northon whose suit was dismissed, but when Ann Rule tried to sue the Seattle Magazine, its editor and Northons husband for their article on her shoddy work, she lost and had to pay restitution. Lack of blood spatter is not evidence of innocence Especially when a shooter is leaning in and shooting into a box (car) while standing outside. The weird behavior (laughing and joking in the shooting reenactment), bullets found at her home and the constant changing of her story only is icing on her guilty cake. Exactly Libby why did they say during the trial that he saw his mom? Im from Australia and have recollections of this case. As I stated towards the beginning of my response, Im taking issue with the blog and the subjective language used. ?.the fact you are ignoring something SO OBVIOUS is a red flag. I can only imagine to absolute horror of Leno and Rosemary LaBianca during their horrific murders. These women did not show emotions and did not fold when asked to. When I hear some people say that they would have liked to smack that smirk off Dianes face when she interacted with the cops or the media, I sayreadthis to understand accounts of people laughing at the wrong time and how it is related to their personality disorder. I point out some obvious facts and discrepancies, and that due process was shoved aside because the state and the media presented a guilty image right from the start. The towel and a girl who had a stroke, was separated from her family and was constantly questioned without being recorded or accompanied by a loved one and testifying to facts that do not match the testimony of the forensic expert is not being reduced to conjecture? What a terrible injustice. did he have eyes in the back of his head.???? She also underwent a gun residue test that same evening that revealed no trace of gun powder on her hands. This is a scenario pretty hard to believe, but as they say, reality can sometimes be stranger than fiction. Jeff, you mention being harsh as if there was a justification for it. Wow does he ever look different than how they portrayed him in the TV movie. They are the ones who supposedly (according to Diane) screwed her up so badly. CK was willing to take, or attempt to take, the lives of 4 people in order to steal their car. The reason Im harsh is because Ive detected that youve paid for this site and therefore cant be wrong. It does not get any bigger than this. At the time, among 49 prisoners denied parole, the board had given only four inmates, including Downs, a 10-year wait. So imagine when you are troubled to begin with. We talked about Steve's love of Marvel films and we joked about the staff knowing we were on a blind date because the waitress had . why didn't steve downs get custody. There are documented cases of suicides where the person has no GNR, as well as murder cases. I simply state facts that did not or would not come out at the time or blatant misconduct from a legal system that is supposed to be based on innocent until proven guilty. Are her parents still living (I know they were a few years ago)? I agree about pregnancy and childbirth affecting women differently, and even having different effects for the same woman with different pregnancies. Guilt or innocence no longer need to be debated in this case. Agreed. I will change it. When Dianes youngest daughter, who was adopted after being taken away by the state, found out who her real mother was and decided to reach out to her, the media and Rule grabbed hold of her to promote their agenda. The case NEVER made sense to me. The question is of course, how can we determine guilt or innocence without a fair trial? I am sorry the meaning of nonsense evades you like the facts of the case in this instance. If Oregonians were not all convinced at first, the media and the crown made sure they would be. I watched the highlights of her hearing. I dont disagree, I just think it is another example of flaws in our justice system. If you want to defend Diane Downs, more power to you. They never tried to reunite them with family. The hell with doubts, ballistics and pesky details about the shooting, we cannot disagree becausethere is hunting and fishing to do and friendships to uphold. At least two of those school mates reported Christies tortured confession to their mother But as usual, it was slanted in the worst possible way. My beef is with the interference by the media, TV shows and Ann Rule Anyways, I was 10 years old when this happened, I stayed with my aunt and uncle a lot in those years, in which they watched A LOT of nightly news programs.lol most of it was like white noise to me, as I would play with my barbies on their living room floorbut I do remember this story. Q. Even if the nurses notes indicated countless times that the children asked for their mother and enjoyed her visits, they cut them off from the only family they knew and loved; supposedly for their own protection. Why would anyone think Christie could remember the night of the shooting anyway?? On May 30, 1983, the McKenzie-Willamette Hospital Chaplain told Dianes father to hire an attorney because the State was going to take his grandchildren away. And yes, its your site, but dont act like a site is open for discussion if its not. It was kind of interesting to hear Mossimo Giannullis lawyer pleading to have his client sent home or put in general population because his mental health suffered drastically in solitary confinement because of covid after 56 consecutive days in solitary. Plus, you do not let a newly appointed judge to criminal cases, preside over a high profile murder case when he has no experience whatsoever and has already prejudged the defendant dangerous to her children. Thank you for presenting a side of the story & case apart from the usual narrative. I think it posible she brought the kids there to be shot by someone else. 2) You mention her youngest daughter, and how Ann made sure she only heard negative information about Diane. Why am I not arguing the facts of the trial? Have you actually read the transcript of the trial?? It appeared rigged: Rigged? and so on. But without proof, Diane couldnt implicate Steve Downs any more than she could shoot him as he violated a restraining order threatening to beat her AGAIN. The detective said if Diane would just testify against Steve Downs, she and her children could go home and try to put their lives back together. Foote refused 30 to 50 reports by detectives of sightings or leads about the shooter but admitted reports from people in Arizona willing to badmouth Diane. He could not during the marriage so he walked away. In her book Heart Full of Lies, Rule took so many liberties with the facts that Liysa Northon sued her. The way Christie was coached did not correspond to the reality of the direct evidence. Her father passed away in October 2017 after having fought relentlessly for her release. The Six Degrees of Separation of Nancy Grace, Kelli Stapleton- A Mother's Wuthering Woes, http://www.glamour.com/story/i-found-out-my-mother-was-a-killer-the-rebecca-babcock-story, http://www.manipulatedtrial.de/oregon_s_small_sacrifices_1603.pdf, http://www.salem-news.com/articles/july152013/midnight-med-tb-2.php, http://www.mapinc.org/drugnews/v09/n364/a03.html, http://www.philly.com/inquirer/opinion/20080910_Prison-happy_U_S__must_reconsider_use_of_mercy.html, http://sputniknews.com/us/20150620/1023613662.html#ixzz3djEXlSAC, http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/the_prison_state_of_america_20141228, https://www.google.com/search?q=diane+downs+with+christie+cheryl+and+danny&sxsrf=ACYBGNQDEM3XNQjZXlqNQpYLhZCn7ic5iw:1576689995166&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjNuNT427_mAhUcJTQIHbveBMIQ_AUoAXoECA4QAw&biw=1024&bih=462#imgrc=gQkU10UxNhHn_M, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZPLkIcSzftE&ab_channel=DianeDownsArchives, Say Her Name But Spell It Right The Tale of Breonna Taylor, And Justice For All The Watts Family Murders, Babe in the Woods & Big Country The Murder of Nicole Vanderheyden, Colonel Russell Williams Where Have You Been? so which one is it????? And according to the law, she should have been released by now, independently of what she says or not. Diane Downs changed her story so many times, even at her parole hearing. You are telling me to take my smugness elsewhere because it is tiresome. So I did not post your comment about his answer to your inquiry. Yes, dad relinquished his rights but he knew that they loved their grandparents and had allowed Diane to take them for a visit without telling the authorities. Christie was it though. Maybe because of her notoriety and the victims were children. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZPLkIcSzftE&ab_channel=DianeDownsArchives. There are no facts? During Dianes examination at trial, Fred Hugi said in front of the jury, in the form of a question, that she had been diagnosed as a , Anne Rule made a big deal of a brass unicorn engraved with the childrens names that Diane had purchased. The bio family should have been given the same opportunity to see the kids and demonstrate their ability to be the guardians. Diane was cooked the minute she walked in that courtroom. Unfortunately couldnt really do anything at that point, as the movie was not VHS yet, it only aired that oncein late 89. Why doesnt the innocent project get involved with her case. Diane ran away from her husband many times between 1976 and 1977, but with nowhere to go except her parents house, she would come back. That conflict of interest alone would incline Christie to testify against her mother. They brought cakes and cookies and became friends so they were not going to fight over this. According to Detective Welch, Steve Downs followed Diane to Oregon, they fought and Steves rage took the last step on the path hed been treading for a long time. It took a lot of time to research this case and present the other side of the coin. So if we started judging people harshly for their flaws, it would never end. Lets not take that lightly. CMOH said 2 doses = minimal protection against infection . It was far fetched, unfoundedand convenientlyrelayedby Rule to boost the sales of her book. The fact that the judge who presided over the child welfare case and the criminal case was the same individual is absolutely a conflict of interest. I was a patient of the doctor who worked so hard to save her childrens lives that night. The inconsistencies and obvious lack of evidence in this case should have called for a wider investigation instead of solely focusing on their prime suspect. Nobody had any reason for a conspiracy of this magnitude over a literal nobody. Late one May night in 1983, Diane Downs sped into an emergency room dropoff in Springfield, Ore., with a horrifying story to tell. This unhealthy marriage survived and became a daily struggle. 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